Showing posts with label Heaven. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Heaven. Show all posts

Thursday, January 10, 2008

Abortion: What WOULD Jesus Do?

This silly story left me wondering . . . what WOULD Jesus do about abortion?

Christ Kills Two, Injures Seven In Abortion-Clinic Attack

The Onion

Christ Kills Two, Injures Seven In Abortion-Clinic Attack

HUNTSVILLE, AL-Jesus Christ, son of God and noted pro-life activist, killed two and critically wounded seven others when He opened fire in the waiting room of a Huntsville abortion clinic Tuesday.

The answer's not in The Onion. It's in The Bible, and it's probably not what you expect me to say.

There's a little song we all know. It goes, "Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world. Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world."

If Jesus, as this Feelgooder tune claims, truly loves all the children of the world, why does He allow billions of them to be born with no chance of Salvation?

"What's that?" you ask. "No, no, everyone has an equal chance at Salvation. The vast majority of people just choose Hell instead of Jesus."

Let's investigate that, shall we?

Two classes of little children are, according to the Bible, condemned to eternal torture in the Pit of Hell by virtue of being born: Those who do not choose Jesus, and those who are illegitimate. Loopholes exist for some who fail to choose Jesus, but never for a bastard.

Deuteronomy 23:2

A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

I don't see any ambiguity here. Neither a bastard, nor his children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc., to the tenth generation, may enter into the Lord's congregation. If they can't enter the congregation, how can they be Saved?

They can't.

Is there any loophole? Well, the Bible indicates that those "without understanding" aren't subject to the Law. That includes the mentally retarded, young children, and . . . the unborn.

What would Jesus do? Would Jesus allow an illegitimate child to be born, knowing that it would be condemned to an eternity in Hellfire because of its parentage? Or would Jesus abort that little fetus, giving it an effective "Get into Heaven Free" card?

I'd like to think He'd choose the compassionate option.

"But wait," you cry. "That's KILLING! God says THOU SHALT NOT KILL!"

Is it killing? Let's investigate. Does God consider the unborn to be people?

No.

Exodus 21:22-25 tells us, quite clearly, that an unborn embryo is not a person:

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Well, there's punishment . . . a fine . . . but what about if he kills a man? Exodus 21:12 answers that:

12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

Clearly, God does not consider the unborn to be people. Therefore, the Bible does not condemn abortion; in fact, it seems clear that this would be the alternative preferred to condemning your illegitimate child to an eternity of torture for your misdeeds!

Do you still doubt God's Plan? If so, consider that 20% -- one of every five -- pregnancies fails. In most cases, the fertilized egg -- according to the antiChristian "Right to Life" crowd, a living person -- fails to implant, and the mother doesn't even know she was pregnant. Many more fail shortly after implantation. Look it up, if you doubt my veracity. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Back? Good. Did you look up how many millions of known miscarriages there are each year? Where the expectant mother actually knows that she's pregnant? Is God murdering all these children? Or are they not children at all, until they have taken the breath of life? (See Genesis 2:7; Adam was not "a living soul" until God breathed the "breath of life" through his nostrils!

In Christ's name, if you are pregnant and will not be married in time to give the child a legitimate birth, show some Christian compassion and abort the unwanted embryo, that it not suffer God's unending wrath for your failure to exercise a little self-restraint!!

Wednesday, April 4, 2007

She's in a better place, my son . . .

A few months ago, I attended the funeral of a friend's grandmother. The Methodist minister, comforting my friend's parents, told them that "She's in a better place now. She's with Jesus."

Not according to my Bible!

Being at a funeral, I determined it was not an appropriate time to witness God's Truth to the minister (I'll call him Pastor Feelgood, for reasons soon to become apparent). Rather, I resolved to speak with him privately on the matter.

When I, not a member of the church, called to say that I wanted to discuss part of the minister's service, he was more than accommodating. I wonder if he saw a possibility to share discussion of God, or perhaps add to the collection plate? Either way, I agreed to meet him at the church and chat.

"What can I do for you?" Pastor Feelgood leaned forward in his chair, eager to offer guidance.

"A comment you made in the service, and which you repeated to [my friend's parents], caught my attention. I'm just hoping to explore some of your ideas a little further."

His brow furrowed as he wondered what he could have said that was controversial. "What comment was that?"

"You said that [my friend's grandmother] was with Jesus now, and in a better place. That's not what the Bible says, so I'm curious where you got that idea."

He hesitated, then asked, "What do you think the Bible says, exactly?"

I informed him that the Bible clearly states that the dead are dead, and do not have consciousness, until the Resurrection at the Day of Judgment. At that point, the saints -- that is, the faithful, not man-made Catholic "saints" -- would be resurrected in the first Resurrection, into glory and eternal service of God. Everyone else, in the second Resurrection, would be resurrected into judgment and be cast into the lake of fire. I laid out this position as follows:

Revelation 20: 4-5

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

Followed by the second resurrection:

Revelation 20: 12-13

And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.

This in no way suggests that there were any dead in Heaven, does it? They couldn't be in Heaven, as they'd not yet been judged.

Lest John not be an adequate source for you -- some have decided that Revelation is not really the Word of God, but a political screed, but that's another discussion -- let's listen to Paul describing his own beliefs:

Acts 24: 14-15

But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

A resurrection of the dead, not a continuation of life in other than bodily form. In order to be resurrected, one must first be dead.

Daniel prophesies in Daniel 12:1-2

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

This indicates to me that the dead will remain dead (sleeping) until they are resurrected at Judgment. Daniel states that some will awake to everlasting life; this clearly demonstrates that most or all of the dead who will enter Heaven will be in the ground for many years beforehand.

Additionally, more of Paul:

1 Corinthians 15:50-54

I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."

This describes both the "Rapture" and the Resurrection. Paul is saying that those who are still alive and faithful will not die but will change; but also indicates that the dead are currently dead, unraised.

II Corinthians 5:10 states, quite clearly,

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that everyone may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

We must be judged. Judgment comes after Resurrection. Resurrection happens en masse.

Finally, Ecclesiastes 9:5,

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

I asked Pastor Feelgood how, given what Scripture states, he could in good conscience tell [my friend's parents] that [my friend's grandmother] was presently in Heaven with Jesus. He fumbled about for a bit, but eventually came to the truth: "It eases their pain."

I'm personally appalled and disgusted that ministers lie daily at funerals, convincing people that their loved ones are up "with Jesus" (when, let's face it, only God knows what was in the deceased's heart, and where he or she will really end up) when they know better. Lies like this encourages belief in all manner of occult nonsense, like ghosts and Ouija boards . . . all wonderful opportunities for Satan to play tricks with our gullible minds!

This incident got me counting the many other things ministers routinely lie about . . . There is much about which to blog, let me tell you!

What are your thoughts on life after death? Do we go to our eternal reward immediately, as the Pastors Feelgood of the world would have us believe? Or do we remain dead in the ground until Judgment Day and the Resurrection, as the Bible so clearly indicates?

Please post a comment!

Welcome to The Feelgood Bible!

Feelgood Bible? What's that all about, you ask?

For years, since joining a Bible-believing Charismatic church, I've been increasingly shocked and dismayed by the arrogance of church leaders and nominal Christians everywhere. What do they do?

  • Cherry-pick verses, like John 3:16a, and portray God and Jesus as some sort of free-love hippies.
  • Interpret God's Word, twisting His Truth to mean what they want it to mean.
  • Decide that parts are "out of date" or "for historical purposes only".
Who makes these choices? Pastors Feelgood, not God.

God gave us the Bible as His Complete and Perfect Word. It is not to be added to, nor removed from, nor altered. So doing is a direct disobedience of God's commandment!

When Pastors Feelgood are finished with the Bible, they've usually whittled it down to a pamphlet of happy verses of naive love, and treated the rest as so much toilet paper. That wee pamphlet is the foundation for their "Feelgood Bible".

Pastors Feelgood then elaborate upon the verses they've selected, building up the full "Feelgood Apocrypha"! The "prosperity evangelists" (think Joel Osteen) have developed an extensive Feelgood Apocrypha, writings which draw the reader away from God's core messages and into a Satanic world of greed-for-'God'. Heretical? I sure think so. Don't you?

If this isn't heretical, I don't know what is:

On Larry King Live, the following very disturbing conversation occurred with Larry King and Joel Osteen:


KING: What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?


OSTEEN: You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to Heaven. I don't know ...


At this point, even Larry King appears surprised by Osteen’s answer. Then Larry tosses Osteen a "soft-ball" to explain his previous answer. And again Osteen openly denies that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way of salvation.


KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they?


OSTEEN: Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God will judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don't know. I've
seen their sincerity. So I don't know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.

[segment removed for brevity - MV]

KING: What about atheists?


OSTEEN: You know what, I'm going to let someone -- I'm going to let God be the judge of who goes to Heaven and Hell. I just -- again, I present the truth, and I say it every week. You know, I believe it's a relationship with Jesus. But you know what? I'm not going to go around telling everybody else if they don't want to believe that that's going to be their choice. God's got to look at your own heart. God's got to look at your heart, and only God knows that. - Quoted from http://www.av1611.org/osteen.html


This is what passes for Christianity today! No wonder faith is as strong in this country as the manufacturing sector!

This blog will explore what the Bible actually says about good, evil, natural disasters, sin, sex, Heaven, Hell, and everything else. Current events will also come into play, helping us see how God's Truth applies to here and now, not just what happened two to six thousand years ago.

I look forward to sharing with you, and some invigorating discussions about the Bible, God's Plans for humanity, and who God and Jesus really are!